mamamoo problematic thread
She gets loads of comments drenched in colourism and misogyny about her genitals and looks its truly vomit worth. In the show, there are co-cast members Par Na Rae and Han Ye Jin. Most of the controveries are from a while back (solar imitating her senior, the strawberry jam song). Siwon seems like a genuinely nice guy, and its really unfortunate that people keep spreading the rumour that hes homophobic, and Im ashamed to be one of the people who contributed to this. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. I promise you it wasnt a group thing. I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), 9 Months of Service. Things not included arent included because they DIDNT happen, stop believing lies told by edgy K-pop stans w/o any receipts. Im not really sure what else to say, if anyone wants to talk to me about it, thats fine. Its blatantly homophobic and transphobic, like, there is no possible way you could deny that. if(document.querySelector("#ads")){ For the segment, the three followed outfits . (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. But- and heres the but- not forgiving them is no excuse for repeated bullying, harassment, and worse. Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. 1 2 3 4 5 Maria29 Kpop Rookie Member Joined Dec 6, 2022 Messages 38 Location Houston Tx Credits 141 Jan 25, 2023 #81 I read something the other day that said we forgive the people not the actions which I think is a accurate way of thinking. My hiatus is indefinite, but its unlikely Ill be running it again any time soon. Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. Offensive Super Junior Masterpost. To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. **All colorism is bad, but i think its fair to say that whenever Tao or Kai try to deflect colorist comments onto each other, it is usually a form of defence mechanism that stems from internalised colorism. You must understand that Asians are very very different from non asians in terms of being conservative, preferring lighter skin and saying that theh are not gay. They removed the video from the ending of their concert shows and Mamamoo also personally apologized at their following concert to anyone who could have been affected by their previous actions. when something is scripted) or it is something they did along time ago and havent done since. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. ", #AskHwasa biggie or tupac? Yet she's okay with that. Mobile +91-9466446612, +91-9728497962; Email info@pvginternationals.com; wow tanaan jungle questline; small planet airlines fleet; you've got mail bookstore name The ring around her mouth: Now a ring around someones mouth was something drawn back in the days of blackface to emphasize big lips. I also hear about a clown outfit she wore in one of their videos that people again try to say was blackface but how when she's naturally tan and didn't look any different than normal so I was like huh. please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. Im also scared of spreading misinformation and making mistakes (both of which are things I have done), and I dont like the idea of people feeling too intimidated to call me out when I mess up. Koreaboo, a digital media company, also reached out to the group because of the incident, and attempted to explain to them exactly why their video was so hurtful. They expect idols to be the wokest people out there because theyre celebrities when in reality theyre just the product of their colorist society. The media and antis take things and blow it way out of proportion. Hope that all made sense! pg.acq.push(function() { To discuss the bullying and harassment Mamamoo now receives daily, we must first lay out what originally brought out all the hate. hitType: 'event', The group officially debuted with their single "Mr. Ambiguous" on June 18, 2014. That crosses every sort of line. Ngl I let out a couples laughs tho. This page was loaded Sep 23rd 2021, 9:34 pm GMT. This has been a hard decision to make, one Ive been debating with for a good while now, but Ive decided I think its best for me to take a break from this blog. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. window.adsContainer = {"positionAfterTitle":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position2":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position3":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Below_Next_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position4":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position5":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle1_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position6":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle2_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position7":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle3_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position8":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle4_Rel_Newrev","max_width":300,"max_height":250},"position9":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle5_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position10":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle6_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position11":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle7_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position12":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle8_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position13":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle9_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position14":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle10_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position15":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle11_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"position16":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_Middle12_Rel_Newrev","max_width":336,"max_height":280},"positionTop":{"code":"Article_Desktop_970x250_Header_Rel","isOrganicUserAd":false,"max_width":970,"max_height":250},"positionBottom":{"code":"Article_Desktop_Sidebar_Bottom_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":300,"max_height":600},"positionBottomRight":{"code":"Article_Desktop_300x250_After_Title_Rel_Newrev","isOrganicUserAd":true,"max_width":336,"max_height":280}} (I read your tags) I hope you dont mind me reblogging this, If you do please just tell me and Ill delete it. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), On top of that, they bash the fans saying we overlook everything and that Mamamoo should have been cancelled by now. When you choose to spend that privilege constantly mocking and harassing people online, well, karma's going to come back to you, in some form or another. That worried him. I think people need to realize that Asia is still inside a bit of a bubble when it comes to what is appropriate regarding race and cultures. The most ridiculous thing I have heard it that Hwasa try to be black like how by being Confident and unapologetic about her skin tone, clothing and looks cause she radiates hotness. For hours the terms hwasa n-word, hwasa racist, hwasa ugly, hwasa dead, were the most common twitter terms in Hwasas searches, while Moos rushed around trying to tweet positive things and trend protective hashtags in response. Everyday there are tweets wishing for her to die, get beat up, fall out of planes, etc. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. MEAWW is an initialism for Media Entertainment Arts WorldWide. Please put a * at the end of the message if you don't want it published. The whole thing was carelessly done and not very thorough. I will try to work on this in the future because I dont want to portray idols as villains when theyre not actually responsible for what has happened (e.g. okay so people seemed to find my exo masterpost pretty helpful and I'm very aware that suju aren't exactly the least offensive group around, so (since the YFIP one isn't very up-to-date) I thought I'd make a super junior masterpost since I'm a suju fan and I want to provide helpful resources for other fans . And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. eventAction: 'click_ads' Um yeah they are just that close that they make fun of each other. There are multiple reasons but a large one being Im just not educated enough. }); It then grew and grew until every day Mamamoo was receiving complaints about their dancing, calling their vocals fake, and most of all, attacking their looks and hygiene. The K-POP idol's vocal talent is considered one of the best in the industry and yet, she continues to receive a great amount of . A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. The other day it was revealed that two major idols were dating, and before I had even seen the news article, I was in a Mamamoo fan group-chat, and someone sent out the link of the dating news with their comment under being, be on high alert for hwasas tags. media-tech companies with hubs around the world. This has taken me quite a while to write because its about 3 am and Im trying not to come across as rude or self-righteous, which I something I often do unintentionally, and Im really sorry its so long when you probably didnt even want a response in the first place. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? For a lot of other controversies in Korea (like addressing an older person informally), international fans may not understand those issues as well as Koreans and believe that it's no big deal. But she probably could not have predicted that an #AskHwasa hashtag could have drawn out some of the worst Twitter drags in recent times. Heres the thing- you can not forgive them. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. (Also just a little side note, I know people arent aware and I havent specified it on this blog, but please dont refer to me with she/her pronouns! Yes, I should have included more info and specified where I wasnt knowledgable. ; _____; aaaa. Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. Now you may be wondering, this dating news had absolutely nothing to do with Mamamoo, why were Moos suddenly preparing for a new war against Hwasa hate comments? I think its kind of childish and irresponsible to exaggerate information and twist the truth just to justify your own personal dislike for a person, without regard for out it may affect them or their fans. Yes, I should have included things such as dates. We always seem to be so hard to celebrities, especially idols, when they fuck up yet we're never there to congratulate them once we see them grow and change. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. But that explanation was also not bought by many. if he just said that he wasshocked because he thought they were gay/trans, then its iffy. Mamamoo member Hwasa is one of the most compelling female idols. . Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. I also included a link to it at the top of the super junior post. Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? hitType: 'event', In fact, I really like them. asked one user while another tweet read, "Dark skin or brown skin men? }); The sun will always shine for us. Also I see hate being normalised and even being defended its not hard if u don't want to forgive them then just ignore or block all mentions of them. }) Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? ga('ads.send', { omg lol at everything written under heechul. Theres no point calling people too sensitive, especially when the stuff pointed out causes many problems, for fans and also the members themselves (for example, Kai has shown numerous times that he is upset by/fed up with the comments on his skin). A quick list (that is nowhere near all) of the vocal famous Mamamoo fans include: JYP (founder of JYPE), Yoo Hee Yeol (Host of Sketchbook), Im Chang Jung (senior ballad singer), Lee Hyori (senior solo artist), Hyuna (solo artist), Seulgi (of Red Velvet), Lee Dahee (actress), Wang Bitna (actress), and Kim Hyesoo (actress). This is extremely disheartening, as Hwasa has spent her entire life fighting against such backwards thoughts as that. Honestly, I would want the person that I love to be more pretty or more handsome., Culturally appropriated a Native American headdress. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. The following 32 users Like TheSexyTwiMan's post: I have a tendency to get a bit defensive and come across as rude/mocking/patronising/self righteous when I dont mean to, which Im trying to work on, but its hard to tell when Im doing it, so I try to avoid argument a lot. You don't have to to forgive them for the blackface but I see far too much misinformation being spread and everyone just take as word. Zhoumi laughed about the earthquake of 6.8 magniture that hit Taiwan saying When the earthquake struck just then, it was just like playing. Moreover, Zhou Mi even used last years Si Chuan earthquake as comparison, saying: Last year, when we were promoting in China, we also met an earthquake, and it was pretty happy. And Han Geng who was beside him immediately rushed forward to clarify: He (Zhou Mi) doesnt mean happy. However, it was too late, as everything was already recorded by the media. A lot of my followers have been a huge help and Ive learned a lot myself. So many public figures coming out and vouching for Mamamoos talent and success only continues to prove their worth and value to the world. 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. 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